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Vista SP1 ruins 360 extender functionality?

Last post 11-01-2008, 5:56 PM by gquiring. 46 replies.
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  •  02-19-2008, 11:25 AM 244682 in reply to 244667

    Re: Vista SP1 ruins 360 extender functionality?

    lilflip21:
    I have Vista Ultimate X86 - SP1 RTM - 2 Xbox 360 extenders both still working perfectly

    I've been pondering if Ultimate-users are having better luck because of the fact that Remote Desktop is included.. It's a long shot though and I'm not about to dish out that dough for extra few features that I have no use for just to try my theory. :)

  •  02-19-2008, 12:09 PM 244692 in reply to 244682

    Re: Vista SP1 ruins 360 extender functionality?

    I guess the easiest thing for me to do would be to uninstall SP1 on my VMC box.
    My VMC setup:
    (2) Xbox360s
    System 1 -
    Dell XPS410 (2.6Ghz C2D, 2GB Ram,Nvidia 8600GT, Blu-ray internal, HD-DVD external (X360 drive), (2) Vboxx DTA150s (OTA HD), Adaptec Dual Tuner (fed a steady diet of DirecTV... sadly NOT in HD)
  •  02-19-2008, 3:25 PM 244769 in reply to 244682

    Re: Vista SP1 ruins 360 extender functionality?

    AntonNilsson - As far as Extenders are concerned there is no difference between Ulitmate and Home versions of Vista. Do you see the certificate error every time you attempt to setup or connect the Extender to the Media Center PC?

     


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  •  02-19-2008, 3:28 PM 244770 in reply to 244692

    Re: Vista SP1 ruins 360 extender functionality?

    rgreenpc - I would be very suspicious if backing off SP1 resolved your issue.

    What type of router are you using on your home network?

    Can you try forcing the link speed for the nic to 100 Mbps Full Duplex and see if that changes the symptoms?


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  •  02-19-2008, 3:29 PM 244771 in reply to 244664

    Re: Vista SP1 ruins 360 extender functionality?

    seang - Are you seeing the same issue? Did you upgrade the driver and get the same 100% repro like rgreenpc?

    I searched but did not find a previous version of the driver.

     


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  •  02-19-2008, 6:46 PM 244811 in reply to 244770

    Re: Vista SP1 ruins 360 extender functionality?

    Jenelle -

    I dropped SP1 back out and the problem has gone away... until a few minutes ago I didn't have a current (useable) MCDIAG ( mine is from 06) and hangs when it polls the extenders or XWAVE.

    If you need any other tests done let me know I am running the MCDIAG now and submitting a bug report.

    But I can assure you that after rolling back from SP1 the problem appears to have gone away.
    My VMC setup:
    (2) Xbox360s
    System 1 -
    Dell XPS410 (2.6Ghz C2D, 2GB Ram,Nvidia 8600GT, Blu-ray internal, HD-DVD external (X360 drive), (2) Vboxx DTA150s (OTA HD), Adaptec Dual Tuner (fed a steady diet of DirecTV... sadly NOT in HD)
  •  02-19-2008, 7:05 PM 244813 in reply to 244771

    Re: Vista SP1 ruins 360 extender functionality?

    JenelleCoberlyatMSFT:

    seang - Are you seeing the same issue? Did you upgrade the driver and get the same 100% repro like rgreenpc?

    I searched but did not find a previous version of the driver.

     

    No.  I did not upgrade to SP1 yet (I'll wait for the official release to be posted on WindowsUpdate).  I am having a different network  issue upon startup (which I'll post on a new message) but my Xbox is streaming fine with the V12.4 Intel NIC drivers.

  •  02-19-2008, 7:21 PM 244817 in reply to 244811

    Re: Vista SP1 ruins 360 extender functionality?

    Jenelle -

    Looking at my snapshot I am seeing a lot of Network Congestion issues.

    I have gone in and selected 100MB Full Duplex as suggested.

    That issue wouldn't manifest as a videp error on the extender would it?
    My VMC setup:
    (2) Xbox360s
    System 1 -
    Dell XPS410 (2.6Ghz C2D, 2GB Ram,Nvidia 8600GT, Blu-ray internal, HD-DVD external (X360 drive), (2) Vboxx DTA150s (OTA HD), Adaptec Dual Tuner (fed a steady diet of DirecTV... sadly NOT in HD)
  •  02-19-2008, 11:58 PM 244853 in reply to 244769

    Re: Vista SP1 ruins 360 extender functionality?

    JenelleCoberlyatMSFT:
    AntonNilsson - As far as Extenders are concerned there is no difference between Ulitmate and Home versions of Vista. Do you see the certificate error every time you attempt to setup or connect the Extender to the Media Center PC?

    The certificate error started out in late January. I haven't had that before.

    Before late January I just got a error message about some timing (as quoted in one of my first posts here).

    Problem is that I spent about an hour and a half looking through the event viewer and I simply cannot find anything consistent. There's always some kind of warning or error when trying to connect but it appears to differ which one it is. The symptoms are always the same though.

    And as mentioned, uninstalling SP1 makes all these problems go away.

    In case that it is of any importance here's my current driver setup:

    nforce networking controller: 67.5.8.0
    geforce 7400: 7.15.11.7412
    realtek hda: 6.0.1.5559
    atheros AR5006EG wireless: 7.4.2.40 (though I keep this disabled when at home)

    I don't have much in the way of third party drivers installed on my computer in case that matters: I have ffdshow with only MPEG4/H.264 components activated as well as the hali media splitter and the problems were there before I installed that
    I also have PowerDVD Ultra installed but MCE seems to use the standard vista codecs and not any third party ones when running a DVD for an example.

  •  02-20-2008, 7:32 AM 244931 in reply to 244853

    Re: Vista SP1 ruins 360 extender functionality?

    Just as an experement last night I rolled back SP1 and let Vista load newer drivers for my NIC.

    The system functions 100% of the time, the only issue is the lag now is quite bad. I can press a button on the remote and it might take 5 seconds to translate onto the GUI.

    I checked the extender and it pegs the bandwidth charts ( not surprising as the rest of my network is gigabit)

    I can press the down button on the remote 4 times:
    The first one is immediate
    The second take a bit longer
    There is a good pause on the third
    The fourth might take 3 -5 seconds.

    Thoughts?
    My VMC setup:
    (2) Xbox360s
    System 1 -
    Dell XPS410 (2.6Ghz C2D, 2GB Ram,Nvidia 8600GT, Blu-ray internal, HD-DVD external (X360 drive), (2) Vboxx DTA150s (OTA HD), Adaptec Dual Tuner (fed a steady diet of DirecTV... sadly NOT in HD)
  •  02-21-2008, 6:58 AM 245200 in reply to 244931

    Re: Vista SP1 ruins 360 extender functionality?

    rgreenpc - what router are you using in your home network? Does the lag continue if the PC and Xbox are directly connected to eachother? When you say the newer drivers do you mean the 12.4 drivers?

    After rolling back SP1 are you still seeing network congestion events in the event viewer?


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  •  02-21-2008, 7:44 AM 245218 in reply to 245200

    Re: Vista SP1 ruins 360 extender functionality?

    JenelleCoberlyatMSFT:

    rgreenpc - what router are you using in your home network? Does the lag continue if the PC and Xbox are directly connected to eachother? When you say the newer drivers do you mean the 12.4 drivers?


    After rolling back SP1 are you still seeing network congestion events in the event viewer?



    Well first I was having terrible issues with the driver you provided in the link.

    So I went back to the driver released by Dell. [ Network: Intel 825xx 10/100 Platform LAN Connect Device, 825xx Gigabit Platform LAN Network Device, PRO/1000 Network Connections, Driver, MS-DOS, Windows Vista 32-bit, Multi Language, Multi System, v.9.6.31.0, A00 }

    The snapshot I sent you was from SP1... I am compiling one from the RTM. I was "prompted" to try SP1 again from the person you got my snapshot from. I am rolling back again.

    I think my computer must be getting dizzy with all of the rolling.

    If you need my contact info you can get it from the person who sent you my snapshot.

    My VMC setup:
    (2) Xbox360s
    System 1 -
    Dell XPS410 (2.6Ghz C2D, 2GB Ram,Nvidia 8600GT, Blu-ray internal, HD-DVD external (X360 drive), (2) Vboxx DTA150s (OTA HD), Adaptec Dual Tuner (fed a steady diet of DirecTV... sadly NOT in HD)
  •  05-05-2008, 6:28 PM 260870 in reply to 238190

    Re: Vista SP1 ruins 360 extender functionality?

    stephenv:
    Hi Jenelle,
    I am able to connect using a xbox 360 as a media center extender, but under SP1 RC the mcx1 ehshell.exe will hang. This is on vista ultimate x64. As the eshell.exe is hung there is no reporting to the event viewer that is useful. From the xbox side the problem manifest in the video output just hanging. the interface tries to continue for a bit and you can hit the fast forward and rewind and you can see it moving up and down the progress bar at the bottom, but the video remains hung. If you shutdown the 360 and restart it will connect but when you playback it will say there are no codecs available to handle the file format. It's interesting to note that the original ehshell.exe does not go away and a new one is spawned. This appears at first blush to be a problem with the mpeg2 video decoder. Were there significant changes made in sp1 to the decoder?

    I'd love to give you exact details but am unwilling to reinstall SP1 to find out, my family relies on the mce and mce extender remaining UP.
    The media center pc I am using is homegrown so this is likely not useful information to you.

    The network card is Broadcom netxtreme gigabit ethernet adapter. (which could be part of the problem, I have had problems with broadcom in the past)


    I've been having this same exact issue with the HP MediaSmart TV Vista extender.  It's happened twice in the last week.  The only way to fix is to reboot the PC itself.  It doesn't affect MCE on the PC.  That still works fine and will play the file.  When I go to task manager and try to end ehshell.exe on mcx1 the process will not kill. 

    I do not have the Broadcom network card that the other user mentioned. 

    Is there any other to kill a process?

    Thanks,
    Clint
  •  07-03-2008, 4:42 PM 271666 in reply to 260870

    Re: Vista SP1 ruins 360 extender functionality?

    My problem is that videos streaming to the Xbox 360 will freeze at random times.  Once frozen, the internet connection itself at the PC will drop.  After several minutes, the Xbox will go to the green screen saying the connection was dropped.  I need to reboot the PC and/or the router to regain internet connection.  The shutdown time on the PC is exorbitantly long after these situations.

     

    I too am inclined to point to SP1 as being the culprit.  For both Vista Home Premium 32- and 64-bit, these problems are commonplace upon installing SP1.  It has gotten to a point that I am manually updating the PC and allowing only critical updates to install.  SP1 and all non-critical updates are not installed.  Without SP1, I may have encountered 3 hangups and I believe that may be a data overload on the router.  It might bear noting that this problem only occurred with movies and not with photos or music files.

     

    Try as I might, I am absolutely sick of trouble-shooting this problem.  I have decided to just stick to my current setup and prevent SP1 from installing.

     

    I am running an HP slimline Athlon 64 X2 2.3 GHz  w/ 4GB ram, 8600GT 512 mb DDR2 video card, and a Raptor 150GB HD.  The movies, all in DVR-MS format, are stored in an external dual enclosure connected via USB 2.0.  The PC is streaming wirelessly via a Belkin USB g adapter to a Belkin 802.11g router.  The Xbox is connected to the router via ethernet.

  •  11-01-2008, 5:30 PM 306696 in reply to 271666

    Re: Vista SP1 ruins 360 extender functionality?

    I just got my Xbox 360 this week and cannot get it to work with Vista. 

    Is there a solution for SP1?
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